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We should not only consume, we should produce something.- you may: * increase your reputation (doing something useful for another members of community) and being improved * purchase temporary access to the improved category: 10 $ for 3 months. : - if your reputation will become less then 0, you will be moved into "simple_users" users' group automatically.* *for temporary groups (pre-paid for 3 months) reputation/posts do not matter.To trace and date genetic lineages potentially brought during this transition and so understand the origin of the gene pool of current populations, we studied DNA extracted from human remains excavated in a Spanish funeral cave dating from the beginning of the fifth millennium B. Thanks to a “multimarkers” approach based on the analysis of mitochondrial and nuclear DNA (autosomes and Y-chromosome), we obtained information on the early Neolithic funeral practices and on the biogeographical origin of the inhumed individuals. Maternal haplogroups found are consistent with pre-Neolithic settlement, whereas the Y-chromosomal analyses permitted confirmation of the existence in Spain approximately 7,000 y ago of two haplogroups previously associated with the Neolithic transition: G2a and E1b1b1a1b.

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Lacan et al., who tested the Neolithic site of Treilles in Southwest France (G2a I2a) published a new study on Neolithic Spain.The samples are 2000 years older than in Treilles, and identified both G2a and E-V13.This could either confirm a Neolithic origin of E-V13 or, my recent proposal that E1b1b crossed from Africa to Europe before the Neolithic.The high frequency of G2a in Neolithic samples in western Europe could suggest, furthermore, that the role of men during Neolithic dispersal could be greater than currently estimated.If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. I think E-V13 were cattle herders becoming increasingly desperate because of the aridification. Slaves, I suppose, rarely become a prominent or high % male HG in a population - just an intuition yes, that's right, but it just so happened, 6000 years ago the Balkans were invaded by Indo-Europeans who had cattle, but who knew notting about farming. Are there any deeper subclades among E-V13, that could make a distinction?Some E-V13 who still owned cattle made it to Southern Italy, or even to Catalonia, Spain, as proven by ancinet DNA (see the Eupedia section for that) But the majority owned nothing and were sold or sold themselves as slaves to work in the Balkan mines or fields for food production. the whole country got desintegrated, but if you were a slave then, and you knew how to work the land, I guess this was rather good news I have a theory : E - V13 arrived as slaves in the Balkans Where from? Are there any deeper subclades among E-V13, that could make a distinction? from northern Tunesia - Acc Chem Res 2002northeren Tunesia was also part of the obsidian trade these traders traded not only obsidian, but also slaves Some E-V13 who still owned cattle were not sold as slaves but made it to Southern Italy, or even to Catalonia, Spain I guess their status was something like the Jews in Egypt That is how they survived as a tribe.You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. The 20% of Russians who are Muhammadans, aren't ethnically Russian, either.If they were raised muslim but then renounce it, then I have no issue.

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